Philip B. Payne

A minority of versions, including the old NIV, translate verse 11, “In the same way their wives are to be.…” The NIV 2011, however, translates it, “In the same way the women are to be….” The translation “their wives” is doubtful for eight reasons: Read the complete post…

What an amazing year it has been! I have been overwhelmed by the uniformly enthusiastic responses to all the seminars I have given on the oneness of man and woman in Christ in Conferences in Uganda and Kenya, Universities, Seminaries, and churches. It was a special delight to be back at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School before Thanksgiving, where response to “How Complementarian is the Bible?” and its many follow up discussions were uniformly positive. You can see the full video of the Seminar on YouTube at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29LlmlrL7fw&feature=youtu.be

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My wife, Nancy, and I are flying to Uganda and Kenya in July, to speak to couples, Kyambogo University Chapel,  a pastors’ conference, Uganda Christian University, and the CBE Annual Conference in Limuru, Kenya.

Chris Date has posted Part II of his podcast interview with Phil Payne at www/theopologetics.com/2012/5/21/episode-86-adams-rib/ in which I answer the most important Biblical objections to the egalitarian view.

Yesterday, May 18, 2012, Chris Date, a self-avowed complementarian,  interviewed me for approximately three hours for a podcast for his blog. You can hear the first half of the interview now at http://www.theopologetics.com/2012/05/17/episode-85-one-in-christ/ Part II will be avilable in a few days.

I pray that Fuller offers this course many more times in the future.

Shari Monson, M.Div., Fuller Seminary Northwest

Thank you for a great class this quarter.

Laura Terasaki, M.Div. student, Fuller Seminary Northwest

Enjoyed and learned so much through your teaching and class discussions!! Thank you for a wonderful quarter!

Gina Yejin Kim, MA in Theololgy student, Fuller Seminary Northwest

I just wanted to thank you again for such a wonderful class. Read the complete post…

Philip B. Payne’s class on Women, the Bible and the Church was one of the best classes I have ever taken in seminary. It showed the importance of being able to read the Greek text and to know how to use the resources that are available to help us read the Greek text and the English text better. Prof. Payne is an extremely detail-oriented person. This is the exact quality that makes the best textual critics. He is an avid lover of Jesus, which makes him a great seminary professor. Read the complete post…

If you are in the area, I would love to see you at one of my upcoming talks in Washington, Texas, Uganda, and Kenya.

Redmond, WA, March 31, 2012, main speaker at the Christians for Biblical Equality Puget Sound Spring Meeting at Overlake Christian Church, 9900 Willows Road NE, Redmond, WA  98052 from 2:00 – 4:30 PM.

Houston, TX, April 27-28, 2012, two plenary sessions, each with Q & A at the conference entitled “New Creation, New Tradition. Reclaiming the Biblical Tradition of Man and Woman, One in Christ” at the Heights Church of Christ, 1548 Heights Boulevard, Houston, TX 77008. http://www.cbehouston.org/Pages/aboutus.aspx Read the complete post…

I have been overwhelmed and greatly encouraged with positive student feedback from my course at Fuller Seminary Nothwest on “Women, the Bible, and the Church.” Following is just one message:

I want you to know what an absolute privilege it has been to sit under your tutelage this quarter. I am so amazed at how the Lord has woven your life together with all the experiences He has brought your way. I do believe you are doing what the Lord has called you to do and on that great day (if you are not hearing it now in your spirit) when you see Him face to face, I know you will hear “Well done, good and faithful servant”. Dr. Payne, you are a gift to the Church, the body of Christ. Thank you  for sharing all your wisdom and years of research with us. It was truly a privilege for me to sit under such quality and inspired teaching.  Read the complete post…

I am having a delightful time teaching a course on Women, the Bible, and the Church on many Fridays from 6 through 9 PM and Saturdays from 9 AM through noon from January through March. Following are some photos of the class.

Phil teaching at Fuller Seminary Northwest

Phil teaching NS561 at Fuller

Phil making a point at Fuller Seminary

On Friday, July 29, 2011, from 12:30 – 2:00 PM I will be presenting the Christians for Biblical Equality Annual Meeting Plenary Lecture 1 at the Doubletree Guest Suites Seattle Airport/Southcenter. The title of the lecture is “The Biblical Foundation for Mutual Submission and Shared Authority Between Men and Women in Church and Marriage.” Click here to download the PowerPoint for this lecture. If you do not own PowerPoint, you may download the Microsoft PowerPoint Viewer or you may install LibreOffice, a free Open Source Office Suite that is compatible with Microsoft Office.

On Saturday, July 30, from 2:50 – 3:50 PM I will lead a workshop on “Justice and Equality for Women Created in God’s Image: The Scriptural Mandate for Ministry and Marriage.”

Hope to see you there!

Kriste Patrow is the contact person to use special discount coupon UPCBE11 for a discount on your registration, also available on site. Her telephone number is 612-872-6898 (good until she leaves for the Conference Wednesday, July 27, 9:00 AM CST).

Professor Aída Besançon Spencer of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary reviews Man and Woman, One in Christ in the latest issue of the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, calling it “a mammoth achievement, a book of exhaustive scholarship.” Read the complete post…

The Irving Bible Church of Irving, Texas invited me to participate in two two-hour “We Engage” panels March 29, 2011 discussing 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 and 14:26-40. Professor Sandra Glahn of Dallas Theological Seminary and Dr. Alice Mathews of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, also on the panel, gave excellent insights. The moderator, Jackie Roese, did a magnificent job adding humor and tying everything together. I loved the opportunity to provide satisfying answers to difficult questions. Everyone was respectful of the others’ views, and all the responses I heard were enthusiastically positive. All 51 copies of Man and Woman, One in Christ I provided sold out. One lady told me, “Until tonight, I hated Paul. Now I respect him.” You can listen to the audio of the panel in English at: http://www.irvingbible.org/media/all-audio/ and a Spanish translation of the panel at http://irvingbible.org/media/series/details/we-engage-panel-2011-spanish/. The next day I had a wonderful time seeing Bill Eubanks’, SMU’s, and Charles Ryrie’s Bible collections. Charles Ryrie and Bill Eubanks were fascinated by photographs of the eight distinctive distigme-obelos symbols at the precise locations of widely-recognized, multi-word interpolations in Codex Vaticanus B, including one at the exact point appropriate to mark 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 as an interpolation.

Kevin Giles, a Biblical Theologian well known for his carefully researched books on Paul and Gender and the Trinity, has kindly authorized me to post his insightful study, “The word ‘role’ in complementarian literature”:
In post 1970s ‘complementarian’ literature the term ‘role’ plays a fundamental part.  If honest communication is to take part between ‘complementarians’ and egalitarians the use of this word must be put on the table and carefully examined. Read the complete post…

I was in the midst of a delightful conversation with Dr. Teresa Okure of the Catholic Institute of West Africa, Port Harcourt, Nigeria, at the Society of Biblical Literature in Atlanta in November, 2011, when she noticed my SBL exhibitor badge and asked “Are you the Philip B. Payne who wrote Man and Woman, One in Christ? I just wrote a review of that fine book.” Read the complete post…

Even if in the NT no women were identified by name as elders, overseers, or pastors, and many men were, this would not logically exclude women from those leadership positions any more than the actual lack of Gentile men identified by name as elders, overseers, or pastors in the NT excludes Gentile men from those leadership positions. Read the complete post…

S. A. from S. Barrington, Illinois, asks for comment on a statement by Alexander Strauch arguing that since Jesus was male, “biblical eldership … must be an all-male eldership. Read the complete post…

Two new reviews on Amazon.com give Man and Woman, One in Christ a five star rating (just like the two earlier reviews). Following are the complete contents of these new reviews. I have interspersed a few personal comments into the second review. Read the complete post…

A Critique of Thomas R. Schreiner’s “Philip Payne on Familiar Ground: A Review of Philip B. Payne, Man and Woman, One in Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Study of Paul’s Letters.” JBMW (Spring 2010) 33–46 Read the complete post…

Susanna Krizo wrote comments based on thinking that 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 addresses women in the church in Corinth who were cutting their hair off and men who were growing long hair, both of which Paul opposes. I explained that if Paul were trying to keep women from cutting their hair off, it does not make sense that he would give the command in 11:6 “If a woman will not cover herself, then she should cut off her hair.” I believe our correspondence may be helpful to others since it sheds light both on various [mis]readings of 1 Cor 11:2-16 and how my interpretation answers these questions.

The key insight of this discussion is that Paul gives the proper answer to the question of 1 Cor 11:13, “Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God uncovered?”  in verses 14-15, “Does not the very nature of things teach you that it is degrading for a man to wear long hair, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory, for her hair is given to her as a covering.” By conjoining these questions, Paul associates “uncovered” with hair and explicitly states that “hair is given to her as a covering.” Consequently, Paul here defines hair as a woman’s covering and explains that if she wears it “as a wraparound,” it is her glory. Since verses 14-15 identify long hair as degrading to a man but the glory of a woman, they also answer the question raised by 11:4 regarding men’s head covering: “What ‘hanging down from a man’s head’ is disgraceful?” Long effeminate hair is disgraceful. Read the complete post…

Philip B. Payne and Paul Canart, “Distigmai Matching the Original Ink of Codex Vaticanus: Do they Mark the Location of Textual Variants?” pages 199-226 in Patrick Andrist, ed., Le manuscrit B de la Bible (Vaticanus graecus 1209): Introduction au fac-similé, Actes du Colloque de Genève (11 juin 2001), Contributions supplémentaires. Lausanne, Switzerland: Éditions du Zèbre, 2009, has been published and is available for free download at the above link or under this web site’s Publications : Articles page. This is probably the most important collection of essays on Codex Vaticanus B ever published. For a full description of this volume and a complete list of its essays see Le manuscrit B de la Bible (Vaticanus graecus 1209).  It can be purchased at the discounted price of $49 from our secure on-line Order Form.